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Ask The Siege

"Can You Help Me Build A Thicker, Wider Back?"

Ask The Siege: ''Can You Help Me Build A Thicker, Wider Back?''

You're not fooling anyone. Flaring your arms doesn't make your puny lats visible. Cure your tiny back disease with hard work and dedication to build a big, thick back.
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My back is puny! How do I get that thick, V-tapered look?

I have come to realize that this country is facing an enormous epidemic. You might not see it on the evening news or find it in a CDC pamphlet, but it's undoubtedly frightening. The "disease" is known as "ILS" or Invisible Lat Syndrome. Symptoms include, but are not limited to flared elbows, a puffed-out chest, and constantly-retracted shoulder blades. If you find yourself puffing up like a peacock whenever a pretty girl walks by, you might have a case of ILS. Don't panic. With a little hard work a dedication, we can cure your "illness."

This is the prescription you need for more real width in your back. Follow the five-part regimen and you'll start to develop that coveted V-taper; you can leave those days of flared elbows behind you.

1
Work Your Back Twice Per Week

I threw a monkey wrench into the machine earlier this year when I explained that I train chest twice per week every week. I was holding back some information though. What I didn't explain was that I train my back on the same days I train chest. The truth is that if you want more mass, you need to train your back twice per week.

I like to alternate chest exercises and back exercises. This allows me to train intensely, keep my heart rate elevated, raise my metabolic activity, and rest one muscle group while the other is working. During the week, I do one heavy day and one lighter day.

On heavy days, aim for a total of 12-15 sets of heavy work. Look to push your back to exhaustion by making it work hard. On lighter days, cut the number of sets to 10-15 and increase the number of reps. Chase the pump on lighter days and try to increase the blood flow into your back. Back training is also about variety, so keep changing your movements and hitting your muscles from new angles.

2
Do Wide-Grip Pull-ups

I can't stress enough the importance of doing wide-grip pull-ups. If you're still a beginner and can't do pull-ups, then start on the lat pull-down machine. I usually do about 3 sets to failure, or 25 reps. However, it's much more important to reach failure than to reach a specific number of reps. As I go through the sets, the number of reps will decrease. This is the one exercise I perform on both days without fail. Heavy day or light day—do pull-ups.

3
Row Like You Never Rowed Before

I have a secret weapon in my back training arsenal. I learned it a long time ago training in a little dirt-hole gym. I perform bent-over rows using the Smith machine and a bench. To do them, I roll the bench under the Smith machine and stand on it. That way, I can bring the bar all the way down to my toes and get an extra-long stretch without sacrificing form. As I pull the bar up, I lean my body forward so at the top of the movement the bar touches my stomach below my belly button. This allows me to squeeze my back super tight and it also puts tension on all the erector spinae muscles. You can perform this exercise on either day, but I find it better on lighter days with less weight and more strict, tight, and contracted reps.

If you really want to develop some lats with thickness, density, and detail don't skip T-bar rows or dumbbell rows. You can get a little messy doing these lifts. Throw the weight around, huff and puff—basically, tear it up. Remember to keep a tight back though, and don't turn your core when you lift heavy weight. I like to do 4 sets of 6-8 reps of each exercise. They don't belong on your light days. Go heavy, go hard, and keep going.

On light days, substitute a standing cable row. Set the cable at about chest-level and do single-arm rows. Perform 3 sets of at least 20 reps. Pull fast and hard to work your lats and your entire core.

4
Lift Heavy Things

There's a huge variety of back machine—so many that it can be downright confusing trying to figure out which one is best. I like to look at things simply: If it's a big, heavy weight, I lift it on my heavy day. I leave the fancy machines for my lighter day.

5
Do What You Like

It's important to enjoy your time in the gym, so if you're not in the mood to hit a specific movement, I feel it's better to do something you want to do with intensity and purpose. I'm not saying to just do your favorite dumbbell rows over and over, but go into the gym with an open mind. Don't just march along the same trail, or you might wear a path into the gym floor.

6
Rest

You should lay out your program so you can get a sufficient 72 hours of rest between training sessions. This should be enough time for you to recover enough to reengage the muscle. If you are new to training the same muscle groups twice per week, you might still feel sore on the second day. You can push through. Your body will grow accustomed to the frequent workouts.

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Noah Siegel's Back Training Split

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About The Author

In addition to his day-to-day activities, Noah Siegel is also a personal trainer, fitness model, and sponsored athlete for Optimum Nutrition.

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Samsdaddy0525

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Excellent article Mr. Siegel. Any training article you write, I pay attention!

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atokad

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atokad

If the workers at my gym saw me do what hes doing under number 3 there heads would probably explode and ask me to leave

Aug 26, 2013 5:21pm | report
tmittan

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tmittan

Probably time to switch gyms

Aug 27, 2013 10:28am | report
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RidleyNoah

Planet Fitness?

Aug 27, 2013 11:35am | report
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atokad

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atokad

It's Snap fitness, its the only gym where I live, Its not bad just has stupid rules and no power/squat rack.....

Aug 27, 2013 3:48pm | report
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That is basically Planet Fitness

Aug 27, 2013 8:46pm | report
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Pieterdb

Even if you do it without shoes?

Aug 28, 2013 8:10am | report
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@atokad

maybe because people look like a total tool when they do that?

Aug 28, 2013 11:45am | report
mcorem

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mcorem

Tell them this is a lifters gym and they can go fitness somewhere else

Aug 28, 2013 8:15pm | report
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fihe

If anything, just do the rows on the Smith machine without the bench, or do them with the barbell on the floor. I also go to Snap Fitness and I don't think they'd care if I did that. I do deadlifts and barbell glute bridges all the time.

Aug 28, 2013 10:45pm | report
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RelaxImJoking

If you jump and then row, you can eliminate having to stand on their equipment.

Aug 29, 2013 8:40am | report
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Briang56

Why don't you just use a plyo box if there Pms-ing over it? It's actually meant to be stood on

Aug 30, 2013 8:15am | report
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MWorkz18

don't worry about other people judging your workouts... noah siegel is a well-established fitness expert, so following his advice is always recommended... and when the results come, nobody will ask you to leave lol

Sep 3, 2013 5:49pm | report
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Marcozr1

Alot of good info here its Just what i was looking for back day. I have a 3 week cycle where i hit chest, back or shoulders twice a week. For instance i do back twice a week on "week B" on day 1 and 6. Thanks Man!!

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lag323

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lag323

I'm considering doing my back and chest on the same day so this helps a lot

Aug 26, 2013 5:41pm | report
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Samsdaddy0525

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I used to do chest and arms together but paired back with chest and though it is a demanding workout, I am glad I did.

I guess what I am saying is go for it!

Aug 26, 2013 5:48pm | report
TrimLines

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TrimLines

Demanding as hell but once you get used to the pace its really great.

Aug 26, 2013 6:12pm | report
Drohimself

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Drohimself

Training chest and back on the same day is awesome! Like Samsdaddy0525 i used to hit chest and tries for a while but as soon as I started training chest and back its hard to go back!

Aug 29, 2013 10:47am | report
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Danbrown521

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Danbrown521

Just what I was asking for a couple days ago... Keep them coming.. Legs are next!

Aug 26, 2013 6:10pm | report
NotSoAvgTim

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NotSoAvgTim

I have retracted shoulder blades like this article states and don't really understand how training back would help? I would think if you train back it would pull your shoulders back more...that being said i still train back twice a week i just though it was due to inflexibility in my rotator cuff

Aug 26, 2013 7:03pm | report
TrimLines

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TrimLines

I don't think you quite understood the article. If you have a medical condition impairing your scapula such as winged scapula, anterior serratus weakness or nerve damage, that is something we would address with specific exercises. That is something totally out of the bounds of this specific column.

Aug 26, 2013 7:12pm | report
NotSoAvgTim

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NotSoAvgTim

Not a medical condition, just something i've noticed on my own. I'm just really interested in the wide v-taper look because i feel like a lot of the popular fitness models now a days don't focus on a good back because its rarely seen. Just realized from this article that maybe my retracted shoulders were from a not-so-good back routine

Aug 26, 2013 7:31pm | report
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jwethall

Great article and great advice!!! I'm treating my back training very similar to bring up my lower lats, but with more lower lat emphasis obviously. One thing I've learned is that little tricks will help you get better contractions and muscle activation and increase hypertrophy. Example; when doing barbell rows, in addition to keeping your elbows close to your body and squeezing your lats, try to pull bar apart with your grip as well. I got this one from Ben Pakulski and its changed the way I train.

Aug 26, 2013 7:12pm | report
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KBoss302

Hey, really good tip on trying to pull the bar apart with your grip. Thank you!

Phil Health offered a similar tip on bench pressing, where you try to squeeze your hands/grip together at the top to really get that deep contraction while benching. You can't go as heavy, but holy hell does it make all the difference in the world and I have achieved some great new chest growth as a result.

Aug 27, 2013 12:02pm | report
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Totally man, I actually used that technique on bench presses yesterday (then did dropsets from 315 to 135). I also used my spotter to add resistance on dumbbell flies to get a full and tight contraction at the top of the movement. It was amazing, I've never had a better pump in my chest.

Aug 27, 2013 3:09pm | report
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