i just recently purchased animal cuts and animal staks from this site and was wandering if it worked for anyone i am looking to get get lean and cut and to add some more muscle to my shoulders and wouldlike to know if this would do it i am about 20 pounds over weight and do cardio and weightlifting 6 times a week

By Big Cat on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 01:59 pm: Edit

It could, but you'd see little effect. it would serve you better to eat like food is going out of style while taking your Stak, then cutting back on the calories, start cardio and take your animal cuts. Try a good shoulder routine if you want bigger shoulders. here's a mass routine that works invariably as long as you are getting enough protein :

Shoulder dumbell press 4x8
(always use false grip and keep pinky higher than the thumb)
Rear lateral Raises 3x10
Side Lateral Raises 3x10
Front Raises 3x10
Shrugs 3x15

If you use them together, your chances for adding muscle are slim. You'd be eating too little for the Stak to work and the cuts would invariably take away from what you have left.

By HAYATO ( - 63.24.179.28) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 10:26 pm: Edit

so it wont help me gain muscle but it will help me get cut i am more into getting cut i can gain muscle pretty easy but im trying to get cut will i lose muscle with animal cuts or will i just not gain any using it i herad that both would work good together for the lean body but thank you for your help BIG CAT

By Big cat on Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 02:06 pm: Edit

You won't lose muscle on the Cuts, that's the beauty of modern fat-burners. You might make moderate gains stacking them, but not worth spending your money on for the little gain you'd make. I love both products, but I wouldn't stack them together.

By HAYATO ( - 63.24.179.187) on Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:19 pm: Edit

BIG CAT what are shrugs and you are saying i should only use one at a time i really what to get cut so should i use the cuts first then when thats used i should go to staks for the muscle gain .Would it be more important to do cardio with the cuts or should i stick to 30 min cardio 45 min weight lifting i cant go to a gym its to expensive and i also dont have a car at this point but i have a weight bench at home and some free weights and i am also thinking about taking mrps what would be good to get lean any ideas thanks again

By Big Cat on Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 02:01 pm: Edit

Shoot,no , stak, first, then cuts. Stak needs the extra weight, if you want it to work you are going to have to eat right and eat a lot. then go to cuts to shed the fat.

Shrugs, you hold a barbell in your hands and try to touch your shoulders to your ears.

By HAYATO ( - 63.24.179.232) on Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 11:20 pm: Edit

BIG CAT the staks and the cuts both have the ma huan extract i was wandering if i took it and did not the sensation that i got from hydroxycut a while back would it still help to shed fat or is the ephidrene the main ingredient in the fat loss process I still workout and all but do the rest of the pills really have that great of an effect. And what would taking animal stak 4-6 hours later after taking animal cuts do its says on the can to take animals staks 4-6 hours later for more defined mass but it does not say how it does this . Thanks again

By Big Cat on Monday, February 12, 2001 - 02:14 pm: Edit

Universal does the research, if they say its so, its so. But don't expect huge gains stacking the two. Expect lean defined mass, but without the extra weight muscle mass is slow to come.

By HAYATO ( - 63.24.179.79) on Monday, February 12, 2001 - 08:45 pm: Edit

Thanks i am going to try the staks first then and and do the shrugs and the other ex. What would be a good workout for lats i would like to make those bigger to and gentics would be the cause between round pecs and sqaure pecs or are there certain exercises for that.

By HAYATO ( - 63.24.179.165) on Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 06:59 am: Edit

I forgot to ask if the staks uses stored fat to bulid muscle is that why you say i should eat so much should i stay away from carbs and stick to protein or vice versa or would it make a diffrence and do you think that doing cardio and weightlifting on the same night every night would be over trainig i do cardio 60 min now and weight training 45 min. Thank for your help i have not started usin the creatine yet and the ma huang extract has no effect but i still taking animal cut for the rest of the ingredeints are still help and im kinda on a tight budget to be buying anything else but Thank you again you are very helpful and im sure your very busy. I ve been to other sites where they wont answer for weeks.

By HAYATO ( - 63.24.179.137) on Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 07:02 am: Edit

i ment to say im still useing animal STAKS sorry

By Anonymous (24.4.252.115) on Sunday, July 08, 2001 - 10:05 pm: Edit

Is animal staks giving you good gains?