| By FedUp (66.26.119.112) on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 02:07 am: Edit |
ok fellas, what is Liv-52. I cant find any info on it anywhere ive looked. Its good for the liver right??? trying to decide if i need to order some or not.
| By european (213.190.62.36) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 05:25 pm: Edit |
Liv-52 is a herb with liver protection ability.
Also it has some anabolic properties.
It is manufacturing by one Indian company.
I have used it with orals such as D-bol to protect my liver. If you want more info shoot me
e-mail bro.
european@ziplip.com
| By Spock (195.92.194.19) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 06:16 pm: Edit |
Yeah its a herbal concoction that alledgedly helps the liver.
European, I am curious to your claims of its anabolic properties. Could you back this up?
| By european (213.190.62.36) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 12:05 am: Edit |
Yes Spock, some herbs have weak anabolic effect.
Liv52 has to,but it will not help if you use roids!
Probably you heard about Tribestan,this
herb is very potent, but it can't give you similar
results as roids. I think it's good only for newbie or when you are in post cycle...
european@ziplip.com
| By No Fear (64.12.102.181) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 01:52 am: Edit |
I wonder how is it administerd and how do you dose it? I asume it is pills.?.?
is it more effective than milk thistle and cranbeery extract.
thanks
| By animal (212.62.40.26) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 02:19 am: Edit |
Liv-52 has anabolic effect?
It doesn't have 0.001% of anabolic effect. Tribestan, Tribulus have weak anabolic effect (they are commonly used after the cycle to recover natural test levels), but they cannot replace HCG. However there is one thing better than Liv-52: silymarin. What can I say: it is commonly used by a people who suffer from cirrosis of the liver, hepatitis, etc.
Cheers,
-Animal-
| By Spock (195.92.67.71) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 02:57 am: Edit |
Yep thats what I thought - milk thistle would be far superior.
Liv 52 has the herb/extracts pressed into a pill, you need to take loads of them though, and as such it can get expensive.
| By animal (212.62.40.26) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 03:52 am: Edit |
Liv-52 is good for the liver (it is better than milk thistle), but it doesn't have anabolic features like european said.
-Animal-
| By Spock (195.92.67.74) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 05:36 am: Edit |
Animal - milk thistle and Sylimarinum are one and the same...
| By Chunky (139.130.73.211) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 05:40 am: Edit |
Anyone heard of ALA (Alpha Lipotic Acid)? It's supposed to be some sort of liver wonderdrug, capable of enabling liver recovery from Hepatitis, HIV/AIDS, and drug use. Also a powerful antioxidant.
Sounds like a good companion for toxic orals. Anyone have any experience with the stuff?
| By Spock (195.92.67.74) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 05:43 am: Edit |
OK further research here....
Each Liv.52 tablet contains:
Capparis spinosa 65 mg
Cichorium intybus 65 mg
Solanum nigrum 32 mg
Cassia occidentalis 16 mg
Terminalia arjuna 32 mg
Achillea millefolium 16 mg
Tamarix gallica 16 mg
Mandur bhasma 33 mg
So no Silybum Marianum/ Milk Thistle.
I did stumble across a refernce quoting Liv 52 as anabolic too, although this is misleading. It does seem to increase protein synthesis (and therefore could be termed anabolic in a bodybuilding sense) but this would almost certainly only be in liver cells, not muscle. This is how it helps the liver - it increases its regenerative rate. Milk Thistle does the same thing, only better and it has the added effect that it actually shields the cells of the liver from toxins too.
| By animal (212.62.40.26) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 06:14 am: Edit |
Never met that name before: Milk Thistle for Silymarinum.
-Animal-
| By animal (212.62.40.26) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 06:23 am: Edit |
Just found it at rxlist (milk thistle), very interesting info must say. Thanks Spock.
-Animal-
| By european (213.190.61.146) on Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 11:50 pm: Edit |
Good research Spock!
I agree that Liv52 effect on muscle can be
very low, but I can add that I know some steroids free newbies in my Gym who say that this herb help them to train harder, and some guys even gained few pounds on this herbal.
european@ziplip.com
| By rounie (203.90.64.5) on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 12:28 am: Edit |
hi rounie here;im based in new delhi& happen to pass by this board-i can clear up a few facts(are you listening mr fedup?)
LIV 52IS MANUFACTURED BY HIMALAYAN DRUG CO, BASED IN BANGALORE USING CENTURIES OLD AYURVEDIC(ancient medicine of india)HERBS& FORMULATION.THEY MAKE EXCELLENT HERBAL PRODUCTS WHICH ARE SECOND TO NONE.
liv 52is basically for those who have a poor appetite & have mild to moderate liver problems
so it may effect muscles indirectly (eg.strength)
this product is "OTC" & VERY POPULAR IN INDIA.