Article #12- Forbidden Supplement Stacks.
Learn about the supplements that you should NEVER take together...
Hello friends. Today my tetralogy about stackings will close with one
that is a "must read" for all of you. l will talk about supplements
should NEVER take together.
Now, there are two categories of these supplements: supplements that
you should not take at the same time, because they won't work
and supplements that you should not take on the same
cycle, because you might experience some negative side effects. So far
science has said that there are many ingredients that don't work well with
other, (minerals, vitamins, amino acids, that compete each other for better
absorbtion), but l prefer to talk about the most crucial, or if you prefer
the combinations that you should avoid at any cost!
For some, l will use scientific facts. With others, l will use common
Let's see now the supplements that belong in the first category.
SUPPLEMENTS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE AT THE SAME TIME
1) The first, is Calcium + Zinc/Magnesium (or the
Calcium blocks the absorbtion of Zinc and Magnesium, so you should not
them at the same time.
Now some of you might wonder: "Hey John, l am not
taking a Calcium supplement, so l don't have any problem with that",
that ALL the whey, soy or milk proteins on the market contain at least 100-200mg
and if you mix them with milk, then the amount is more or less 500mg!
of you are like me, drinking the last protein shake meal of the day
before you go to sleep, forget taking your ZMA.
Solution: There are two things that you can do as long as you will
with ZMA. The first is to take your protein shake serving 1-2 hours
go to sleep. But for those that are afraid that they will be hungry
have one more very good solution. Replace your Whey with Egg
Egg powder does not contain any calcium, or if it does, the quantity is
than 10-20mg per serving. (Almost nothing) So feel safe drinking your
protein with water or fruit juice (forget milk also), and after 10-15 min
take your ZMA pills.
|2) Two more supplements that you should not take at the same time are
Creatine + L-Glutamine.
You should not take Creatine and Glutamine at the same time, because
and Glutamine depend on many of the same substrate carriers and
When the two are competing with one another for the same carriers, one wins
and one loses.|
Solution: Simply take them with 2 hours apart. Most bodybuilders are
L-Glutamine before they train and before they sleep, and Creatine after
train and first thing in the morning. So this way, they give their
bodies plenty of time to absorb each one of these separately.
For others that train after their breakfast, if you take Creatine only
per day, take it after your training, and on the days you don't train,
take your second dosage 2-3 hours after your morning L-Glutamine
hours before your last L-Glutamine serving.
3) I will talk about Creatine again, but this time with Caffeine.
DO NOT take Creatine and Caffeine at the same time.
A team of Belgian researchers investigated the effect of taking
supplements with caffeine.
The researchers recruited nine men who did regular recreational
were not at a high level of training. Each man then undertook a series
regimes, allocated in a random order, with a three-week break in
stage did the men know whether they were taking caffeine, creatine or
The timetables were as follows:
A: Creatine loading for six days, taking 0.5g of creatine monohydrate
body weight per day
B: Placebo pills for 6 days
C: Creatine loading as in A, plus taking a dose of caffeine at
last 3 days of loading. Caffeine dose was 5mg caffeine per kg of body
(for a 70kg man, the equivalent of 3 strong cups of ground coffee, or 7
Muscle creatine phosphate levels were measured before and after each
addition, a series of tests to analyse muscular force were carried out
subjects by making measurements during a standardized sequence of knee
When creatine supplements were given, knee muscle force was boosted
significantly, as would be expected given the raised muscle levels of
phosphate. But, guess what happened! Although caffeine-plus-creatine
muscle phosphocreatine levels above placebo, the boost to muscle
seen with creatine alone was completely missing!
Reference: "Caffeine counteracts the ergogenic action of muscle
loading", Vandenberghe et al, J Appl Physiol, vol 80, pp452-457, 1996.
Solution: It is better if you weight train after your breakfast,
at that time. If you train at the afternoon, avoid drinking coffee
you leave from your work. Try to have at least 4-5 hours difference
coffee and your Creatine serving for better results. (Caffeine stays in
system longer than most other stimulants. Half the caffeine you drink
of coffee may still be coursing through your veins four hours later).
one of you that is taking a loading phase of Creatine, forget coffee
4) Now let's see one very important vitamin and one mineral that you
take at the same time. Vitamin E and lron! lron destroys vitamin E. So
take your vitamin and lron at the same time, if you want some extra
5) Two more minerals that are not good to take at the same time, are
and Zinc. Zinc competes with Copper when you supplement them at the
take them again separately.
SUPPLEMENTS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE ON THE SAME CYCLE
Now pay great attention here. I won't talk about supplements that won't
give you good results if you take them together, but
supplements that will put your health in risk if you take them
1) E/C/A + Yohimbine.
ln a study held in 1998, when overweight and obese people were given a
combination of Ephedrine, Caffeine and Yohimbe
stack, and asked to exercise, the doctors that did the study found that
addition of Yohimbine (10mg/d) increased blood pressure and heart rate
decreasing the heart's efficiency of pumping blood!
This increased the load on the heart during work or exercise that could
potentially lead to a heart attack or stroke!
But Ephedrine (50mg/d) + Caffeine (400mg/d) alone, had no such effect on
So forget any supplement product on the market that has all of them at
time, and forget any combination like that, for your own good.
Reference: "Cardiovascular effects of Ephedrine, Caffeine and Yohimbine
by thoracic electrical bioimpedance". Clin. Physiol.1998
2) E/C/A + L-Carnitine
Here l prefer to talk with common sense.
In order to burn fat when you take Ephedrine or E/C/A stack, your body
turning the calories into heat instead of storing them as fat.
Also, Caffeine by itself, increases blood adrenaline levels, thereby
lipolysis. (The breakdown of fat.)
But in order for your body to start doing that, it has to also increase
palpitations. (That's why people with heart or blood pressure problems
should never take any Ephedra based product.)
Also, in order to transfer fatty acids across cell membranes to the
mitochondria where they can be used as energy, L-Carnitine also
palpitations. (Not as much as E/C/A but it does.)
|So if you take both of them at the same cycle, you risk an even faster
beat. Losing fat is good, but losing your health is terrible! So take
3) L-Carnitine + Yohimbe
L-Carnitine, as l said before, increases your heart rate. Add to that,
Yohimbine, (the active ingredient of Yohimbe),
has a major impact on blood levels of noradrenaline. (A
secreted by certain nerve endings and by the adrenal gland.) Guess
means? Yohimbine stimulates the central nervous system, and this has as
effect, increasing your resting heart rate. Again we have a story with
ingredients that can each increase your heart rate.
So to take both of them at the same time is a very big NO NO.
4) Creatine and Fat Burners.
l said before that it is not good at all to take Creatine with
is something more here. Think about one of the most major functions
doing. lt causes water retention inside the muscle cell, right? Now
about one of
the most major actions of Caffeine! (If you wonder why l am talking
about Caffeine again, keep in mind that at least 90% of fat burners
Caffeine or "Guarana" which is basically Caffeine in herbal form.) lt
frequent urination. So from one side you have to drink more water
Creatine, but at the same time you have to go to bathroom more often.
result? Very possible dehydration and muscle cramping.
You want to lose
unnecessary fat pounds ladies and gentlemen? Fine,
take your fat burner, reduce your calories, and increase your cardio!
gain some muscle pounds? Take a good Creatine supplement, and increase your
food consumption! You want to get more muscles, but at the same time
want to lose some unnecessary pounds?
Sorry, out of the question! Decide what you want to do first, and don't
hype: "l got 10 muscle pounds in 8 weeks, and at the same time l lost
pounds"! (Yeah right!)
5) E/C/A (or any fat burning product) + Pro-Hormones
Now l will talk about what I think is the most dangerous combination.
l really wanted to find a very good scientific study that would confirm
l will say, but l will use again my common sense.
(And remember, you will read it here first!)
As l said before, an E/C/A stack (or any other product that contains
L-Carnitine or Yohimbine), is increasing your heart
What about Pro-Hormones?
Pro-Hormones work wonders if you take them alone, but remember
you take them, you are more "in the mood" to train hard, because your
levels are increased. Also, one of the negative side effects of
pro-hormones is more aggression. Of course you don't have the same kind
aggression that you might have if you were taking steroids, but l
will explain what l mean.
It's scientifically proven that when males
females) are most aggressive, plasma levels of testosterone are
Well think about something now. Do you remember the last time that you
angry about something before you train? As a result, you had a
very good training later.
Also have you ever heard from your trainer or from some friend, that if
to train real hard, you have to think someone that you hate? (Good old
Yes? Good! This means your testosterone levels had hit the roof at
that time, (along with your Adrenaline or Epinephrine levels), and
you could try harder and lift more. Maybe even some of you have
made fun about that saying. "Hey my testosterone levels are pretty high
Now try to think something else. Do you remember your heart beat
(This is very important)! lf you remember that, then we are on the same
page. lncreased testosterone (for a large or small periods of time),
your heart rate.
Of course as l said before, one part of that has to do with Adrenaline
it stimulates the heart, constricts small blood vessels, raises blood
liberates sugar stored in the liver, and relaxes or contracts certain
involuntary muscles, but also increased testosterone plays it's role
Pro-Hormones primary function is to increase your testosterone levels.
remember, what l wrote before, fat burners also increase your heart
rate. So what is the final result here?
Again, two (or more), compounds that will increase your heart
My advice? Avoid that at any cost!
NEVER take two ingredients that both increase your heart rate. And
l will say again what l said about Creatine and fat burners.
Follow two different cycles, one for muscle mass, and then one for fat
never do them together.
Don't believe the hype that you can get muscle pounds and lose
fat pounds at the same time.
But most important, don't put your health in any kind of danger.
This was the end of my 12th article friends. lt was one of the most
articles that l have written so far, and l hope you will follow my
and won't combine what l mentioned before. Save your money and keep
in the most optimum levels.
ln my next week's article l will talk about the importance of the mind
(Remember! The best workouts really start in your head). Stay tuned!
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